Really Bad Video

+1 to this thread-- Like Michael Finney I came here after Turner completely switched to an implementation without warning at 5.23.

Overall, I find Turner to be much more assuming of my level of experience. He breezes over things, misspeaks, makes errors without pointing them out to us, I would much prefer to see Amit teach this course. After reading this thread, it's dissappointing that I'm essentially being told to turn elsewhere to learn this.

I agree this video jumped in to a bunch of stuff that had not been gone over so it was very confusing

FOR ALL WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH THIS COURSE:

(sorry for caps) I also was destroyed by this video and my hopes of learning Obj-C were wavering. However what you don't yet know is you just try to take in as much as he says here and keep going the rest of the course basically explains what is covered in this video; over and over again.

This clarifies everything and will make you feel like a coding GOD if you just keep going and you get a new teacher shortly who asks the questions your asking and is amazing at keeping you going!

Despite being (mis)labelled as a beginner course, Objective-C Basics is a very advanced and technical course and is one of the most difficult ones on Treehouse in my opinion. C is a very low-level language, quite unlike PHP or Ruby or Python or even Swift. It's much harder to master, and many of its concepts are completely different.

What I'd recommend is to learn Objective C without taking the ObjC Basics course first, then return to it for a more in-depth introduction. When I took the course, I found it very challenging, but I was able to understand all the concepts taught in the videos. Perhaps after taking some other Objective-C courses, you'll be able to understand the language more.

yes you are correct I am on the trial for both. Even with the very easy to follow guide on Lynda.com, when I come back to this I still fail the quiz. This is ridiculous and the fact that the instructor used the phrase "see it just works", well doesn't "just work" for me. Should one of my professors at the school that I pay to attend said that, I would withdrawal and take my money elsewhere. I guess the bottom line is that it is really frustrating to sign up for a tutorial site just to find out it is missing a key tutorial.

I feel the same way. Going from the previous lessons to this one, it's a huge step. It does not help one bit that the teacher is quickly switching back and forth, cutting and pasting at the speed he's doing it. It was suggested that I watch the entire video, without typing anything, and then only after that, re-watch again and follow along to help with my understanding, but there are little things in the video that interfere with understanding.

For instance, I am at 5:33 in the video right now (paused of course) and he has sphere.h selected on the left side of the screen. However, the document he is actually editing is sphere.m - check it out for yourself. This is of no help - certainly it confused me the first couple times I saw the video. Small thing, but for many it's a puzzling point in the video.

I don't think at all that a series of videos should be all I need - and I accept that I need to be reading books too - but this particular video has problems. I'm reading the Big Nerd Ranch book on this topic, and that helps.

I suggest a re-recording, into two videos if necessary.

I think a lot of the confusion revolves around the fact that he doesnt mention that he is going from his .h (header) file to his .m (method) file at 5:23. He just goes there instantaneously. If you dont realize he is doing that, it create an entire world of confusion. I had to rewatch this video 3 times to understand it..

If you just added one line, saying, now going to the .m file (@5:23) it would clarify things greatly.

After going through "The Big Nerd Ranch Guide" for Objective-C programming + taking Sam Allardyce's "Objective-C Essential Learning" video course (at Lynda), things are indeed a lot more understandable.

Yet, I would expect from an acclaimed company like TreeHouse to provide a more intuitive track for learning Objective-C.

Isn't it their pitch? from a complete newbie to become sufficient enough in any of the languages and courses provided here to hopefully land a job or start a business within the respective industry?

Just finding it a bit frustrating to create a trial account with Lynda or purchasing external source materials just to be in tune with the TreeHouse Objective-C development track with Douglass Turner.

If there was only a way to pass this message and common frustration along to TreeHouse's higher authorities.

I agree, when he goes into implementation at 5.23 I have no idea what button he pushed or what even exactly all was changed. It was just a quick blip to him. I am going to try Sam Allardyce's Obj-C course at Lynda to see if I can catch up if not I will cancel this site before my first payment as there is no point in continuing if I have no idea what he is talking about.

I know this is an old thread but I wanted to comment too incase Treehouse is still looking at it. The teacher in this course jumps around without explaining what he is doing. He uses keyboard shortcuts without telling us that he has used one, or what it is. In the Structs video (immediately previous to this one) he jumps around from line to line editing without explaining. I felt totally sure and confident in all the other courses I have taken on Treehouse but this teacher confuses me and I have struggled with confidence since I started having to learn from him.

I'm going to be nice about this but I have digested so many courses in two weeks on here and yet I have spent around 6 hours on these two videos as the entire thing mystifies me. There is no outline, no explanation, no transition. How can we compare things to standard C when we have no idea what we're comparing?

I'm not expecting to be baby-fed, but I am looking for some explanation.

This is crazy I don't even have a mac It was easy to follow along up until now with my Dev C++ and my C skills But this this is trash

The teacher clearly knows his stuff. Unfortunately, I don't and found this course increasingly more difficult as I went through. I still think there's a lot to learn here though - some of it has stuck.

I admit I glazed over a bit in Structs and guessed the quiz (100% BOOM!), but this isn't the way to go.

I know this course has been 'retired' but I still want to learn C because of where it can lead. It's like Latin for computers.

What's the Treehouse equivalent of this? -

http://www.lynda.com/C-tutorials/C-Essential-Training/164457-2.html

Josh